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		<title>By: Software Freelancer Download &#124; Online Freelance Work</title>
		<link>http://kriswrites.com/2010/03/04/freelancers-survival-guide-continuing-education-networking-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-818</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve Lewis</title>
		<link>http://kriswrites.com/2010/03/04/freelancers-survival-guide-continuing-education-networking-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-814</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to mention another area of continuing education that Kris and Dean mentioned in June that was brought home to me recently: other writers lives.   I picked up Kevin J. Anderson&#039;s short story anthology Dogged Persistance today and was surprised to find an introduction by Kris. 

In it she mentions that Kevin is the most driven person she knows. She recounts a story of when she met him in a writing class. Kevin made a bit of a scene (I&#039;m only giving the Cliff&#039;s, or in this case the Steve&#039;s, notes version here. Pick up the antho if you want the full version. Trust me you do.) Kevin mentioned that he had published and been paid for over a hundred short stories. And  -wait for it-  he was 18. Unless I some how read things wrong. Also, I&#039;m sure these were all semi-pro sales since his first pro sale was &#039;Final Performance&#039; which was published five years later. That these were semi-pro doesn&#039;t take anything away from the achievement. 

All I can say is wow. Kevin is made of awesome. And this ups my drive. I love stories like this because I consider myself a sort of &#039;blue collar writer&#039;. I don&#039;t think that I&#039;m the next Hemingway or even Phillip Roth but I can tell a good story. And that&#039;s all I want to do. So, even though I think that they&#039;re mega-talented, people like Kris and Dean and Kevin inspire me with their hard work. 

Anyway that&#039;s my two cents, now back to the word mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to mention another area of continuing education that Kris and Dean mentioned in June that was brought home to me recently: other writers lives.   I picked up Kevin J. Anderson&#8217;s short story anthology Dogged Persistance today and was surprised to find an introduction by Kris. </p>
<p>In it she mentions that Kevin is the most driven person she knows. She recounts a story of when she met him in a writing class. Kevin made a bit of a scene (I&#8217;m only giving the Cliff&#8217;s, or in this case the Steve&#8217;s, notes version here. Pick up the antho if you want the full version. Trust me you do.) Kevin mentioned that he had published and been paid for over a hundred short stories. And  -wait for it-  he was 18. Unless I some how read things wrong. Also, I&#8217;m sure these were all semi-pro sales since his first pro sale was &#8216;Final Performance&#8217; which was published five years later. That these were semi-pro doesn&#8217;t take anything away from the achievement. </p>
<p>All I can say is wow. Kevin is made of awesome. And this ups my drive. I love stories like this because I consider myself a sort of &#8216;blue collar writer&#8217;. I don&#8217;t think that I&#8217;m the next Hemingway or even Phillip Roth but I can tell a good story. And that&#8217;s all I want to do. So, even though I think that they&#8217;re mega-talented, people like Kris and Dean and Kevin inspire me with their hard work. </p>
<p>Anyway that&#8217;s my two cents, now back to the word mine.</p>
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		<title>By: L. M. May</title>
		<link>http://kriswrites.com/2010/03/04/freelancers-survival-guide-continuing-education-networking-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-810</link>
		<dc:creator>L. M. May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The RWA is a great resource even if you aren’t a Romance writer. Actually, scratch that, ESPECIALLY if you aren’t a romance writer. They are all about building a career and approaching writing like a business.&quot;

Thanks for the heads-up, Steve.   You&#039;re right, the RWA Nationals stuff is great for writers in general, not just romance.

Here&#039;s the link if anyone doesn&#039;t have it:
http://www.rwanational.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The RWA is a great resource even if you aren’t a Romance writer. Actually, scratch that, ESPECIALLY if you aren’t a romance writer. They are all about building a career and approaching writing like a business.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the heads-up, Steve.   You&#8217;re right, the RWA Nationals stuff is great for writers in general, not just romance.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link if anyone doesn&#8217;t have it:<br />
<a href="http://www.rwanational.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.rwanational.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lewis</title>
		<link>http://kriswrites.com/2010/03/04/freelancers-survival-guide-continuing-education-networking-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-809</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought I&#039;d add a little to the discussion about continuing education. For those who may have missed it, over on Dean&#039;s blog we talked about the RWA Nationals and how informative and just plain cool they are. Plus they&#039;re only eight dollars and you can download them right to your computer. Woohoo! I downloaded a great talk by Stephanie Bond called How to Make a Living Writing Romance Novels. 

The talk was great and, I thought, mapped over well to other genres. Also, if you go to Amazon and search for Stephanie Bond under Amazon Shorts she has an article on how to write a business plan for your writing career (it&#039;s the second article in the minding your own writing businss series). What she says meshes well with what Dean and Kris have to say. Actually, they say alot of the same stuff but I feel that there was enough of a difference that she earned my eight dollars. 
 
Also, Stephanie mentioned that to generate cashflow (and she said that writing is all about cash flow) she still writes category romances even though she&#039;s published many single titles. This brought to mind a question for Kris: Is there any thing in other genres that would be comparable? The only thing that I could think of was media books just plain writing more. Her strategy seemed smart but I couldn&#039;t think of how to map it over. Hmm...maybe I&#039;ll have to branch out into romance.  

Anyway, just thought I&#039;d pass this along for anyone who didn&#039;t know. The RWA is a great resource even if you aren&#039;t a Romance writer. Actually, scratch that, ESPECIALLY if you aren&#039;t a romance writer. They are all about building a career and approaching writing like a business. Aside from Kris and Dean, I haven&#039;t found any other resource that was so helpful career wise. 

Alright, I have to go and scratch the writing itch. 

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I&#8217;d add a little to the discussion about continuing education. For those who may have missed it, over on Dean&#8217;s blog we talked about the RWA Nationals and how informative and just plain cool they are. Plus they&#8217;re only eight dollars and you can download them right to your computer. Woohoo! I downloaded a great talk by Stephanie Bond called How to Make a Living Writing Romance Novels. </p>
<p>The talk was great and, I thought, mapped over well to other genres. Also, if you go to Amazon and search for Stephanie Bond under Amazon Shorts she has an article on how to write a business plan for your writing career (it&#8217;s the second article in the minding your own writing businss series). What she says meshes well with what Dean and Kris have to say. Actually, they say alot of the same stuff but I feel that there was enough of a difference that she earned my eight dollars. </p>
<p>Also, Stephanie mentioned that to generate cashflow (and she said that writing is all about cash flow) she still writes category romances even though she&#8217;s published many single titles. This brought to mind a question for Kris: Is there any thing in other genres that would be comparable? The only thing that I could think of was media books just plain writing more. Her strategy seemed smart but I couldn&#8217;t think of how to map it over. Hmm&#8230;maybe I&#8217;ll have to branch out into romance.  </p>
<p>Anyway, just thought I&#8217;d pass this along for anyone who didn&#8217;t know. The RWA is a great resource even if you aren&#8217;t a Romance writer. Actually, scratch that, ESPECIALLY if you aren&#8217;t a romance writer. They are all about building a career and approaching writing like a business. Aside from Kris and Dean, I haven&#8217;t found any other resource that was so helpful career wise. </p>
<p>Alright, I have to go and scratch the writing itch. </p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: L. M. May</title>
		<link>http://kriswrites.com/2010/03/04/freelancers-survival-guide-continuing-education-networking-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-805</link>
		<dc:creator>L. M. May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ve heard the Clarion folk say that people who can’t get six weeks off don’t want to be writers.&quot;   

O_o

Do they realize they&#039;ve put down the writers of every other genre, including literary fiction? 

The Bread Loaf Writer&#039;s Conference for literary fiction lasts for 10 days.   TEN DAYS.  

I can&#039;t even think of a prominent writer&#039;s workshop for thrillers, mysteries, romance, or children that lasts for more than two weeks.

The freelance software programmers I know leave town for training for at most two weeks a year.  Otherwise, they do online classes or take local classes.   The lost time and money becomes too much after 1-2 weeks.


&quot;I think that’s unrealistic. Adults have responsibilities that often can’t be shrugged off easily.&quot;

I have to agree with you on that!

Also, now that I&#039;m thinking about it, the six weeks eliminates by default young scifi writers with certain unusual backgrounds:  severe chronic illness (I know a beginning scifi writer who could handle a week away from her doctors, but not six weeks), military service commitments, or a cultural background that expects young people to earn money to support their extended family.

The latter haunts me a bit, because this is a real problem for young writers, both in the &quot;majority&quot; and &quot;minority&quot; cultures in our society.   It&#039;s a heck of lot easier to win a fight with your elders to get 1-2 weeks away from working your job (which provides desperately needed income) to go to a writer&#039;s workshop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve heard the Clarion folk say that people who can’t get six weeks off don’t want to be writers.&#8221;   </p>
<p>O_o</p>
<p>Do they realize they&#8217;ve put down the writers of every other genre, including literary fiction? </p>
<p>The Bread Loaf Writer&#8217;s Conference for literary fiction lasts for 10 days.   TEN DAYS.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t even think of a prominent writer&#8217;s workshop for thrillers, mysteries, romance, or children that lasts for more than two weeks.</p>
<p>The freelance software programmers I know leave town for training for at most two weeks a year.  Otherwise, they do online classes or take local classes.   The lost time and money becomes too much after 1-2 weeks.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think that’s unrealistic. Adults have responsibilities that often can’t be shrugged off easily.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to agree with you on that!</p>
<p>Also, now that I&#8217;m thinking about it, the six weeks eliminates by default young scifi writers with certain unusual backgrounds:  severe chronic illness (I know a beginning scifi writer who could handle a week away from her doctors, but not six weeks), military service commitments, or a cultural background that expects young people to earn money to support their extended family.</p>
<p>The latter haunts me a bit, because this is a real problem for young writers, both in the &#8220;majority&#8221; and &#8220;minority&#8221; cultures in our society.   It&#8217;s a heck of lot easier to win a fight with your elders to get 1-2 weeks away from working your job (which provides desperately needed income) to go to a writer&#8217;s workshop.</p>
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