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		<title>By: Kristine Kathryn Rusch</title>
		<link>http://kriswrites.com/2012/09/05/the-business-rusch-a-good-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-16920</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristine Kathryn Rusch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marc, I love your philosophy. I had to learn the hard way to ask those questions that you just naturally ping, because I started out with agents handling the negotiations (like a good writer should). Then I started asking the agent who hadn&#039;t a clue. So I forced agents to ask, and several refused. They no longer work for me. 

And folks, I approach every negotiation with the attitude in Marc&#039;s aside. Yes, the person I&#039;m negotiating with is wonderful, but they could get hit by a bus tomorrow, and then I expect them to be replaced by Darth Vader (or maybe the Emperor--he was probably tougher on contracts). When looked at in that light, a lot of contract terms are simply unacceptable on their face.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, I love your philosophy. I had to learn the hard way to ask those questions that you just naturally ping, because I started out with agents handling the negotiations (like a good writer should). Then I started asking the agent who hadn&#8217;t a clue. So I forced agents to ask, and several refused. They no longer work for me. </p>
<p>And folks, I approach every negotiation with the attitude in Marc&#8217;s aside. Yes, the person I&#8217;m negotiating with is wonderful, but they could get hit by a bus tomorrow, and then I expect them to be replaced by Darth Vader (or maybe the Emperor&#8211;he was probably tougher on contracts). When looked at in that light, a lot of contract terms are simply unacceptable on their face.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine Kathryn Rusch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine Kathryn Rusch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this, Marc. It&#039;s also been my experience with attorneys that they&#039;ll tell me if I really need to hire them (or someone else). If I can handle it on my own with a little coaching, a good attorney will say that. I hired an attorney when I was exceptionally poor. She let me pay the retainer in installments, and it took me four years to pay for her work. But she was worth every dime and I am extremely grateful. We hired a different attorney for the estate we dealt with last year, and he outlined all of the fees for everything in our first consultation before we hired him. He too offered a payment plan, although we didn&#039;t ask for one, and we didn&#039;t need it. Most folks need one on a case as big as that estate was. He was not the first attorney that we talked to. Another attorney wasn&#039;t sure he could handle the complexities and said so. And a third attorney (a friend out of state) consulted briefly just so that we made sure we had the right attorney here. Every single attorney gave us good advice, told us (or me) their limitations, told us what they could or could not do, and advised us on what we could easily do ourselves. A good attorney is worth every dime, imho.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Marc. It&#8217;s also been my experience with attorneys that they&#8217;ll tell me if I really need to hire them (or someone else). If I can handle it on my own with a little coaching, a good attorney will say that. I hired an attorney when I was exceptionally poor. She let me pay the retainer in installments, and it took me four years to pay for her work. But she was worth every dime and I am extremely grateful. We hired a different attorney for the estate we dealt with last year, and he outlined all of the fees for everything in our first consultation before we hired him. He too offered a payment plan, although we didn&#8217;t ask for one, and we didn&#8217;t need it. Most folks need one on a case as big as that estate was. He was not the first attorney that we talked to. Another attorney wasn&#8217;t sure he could handle the complexities and said so. And a third attorney (a friend out of state) consulted briefly just so that we made sure we had the right attorney here. Every single attorney gave us good advice, told us (or me) their limitations, told us what they could or could not do, and advised us on what we could easily do ourselves. A good attorney is worth every dime, imho.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Whipple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Whipple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I may insert a not-so-subtle plug, an &lt;i&gt;experienced&lt;/i&gt; licensing attorney, when offered particularized incentives for particular products, will immediately ask, &quot;How do I know that those products will be offered for sale in commercial quantities as opposed to other products which have differing royalty terms?&quot; I can think of three different ways I would have addressed said deal-sweetener, and that&#039;s just off the top of my head. I wouldn&#039;t even necessarily attribute the prospective failure to promote/market/sell the royalty-enhanced products to bad faith. I don&#039;t care &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; somebody does something when I write a contract, only whether they do it or not, and what happens if they do or don&#039;t.

(As an aside, it&#039;s very common for licensees to play the &quot;We&#039;re honest professionals, you can trust us to read this reasonably&quot; card when licenses are negotiated. My response to this is a friendly laugh and the statement, &quot;Of course I trust &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt;, and I&#039;m sure you&#039;d pay on this just like you say. But, God Forbid, what if you get hit by a bus tomorrow and somebody else has to manage the license?&quot;)

This point shouldn&#039;t be taken in isolation or wrangled about in depth: it&#039;s just a good illustration in general of the kind of thing you need professionals to know about so you don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to. I could list out a few dozen similar principles that are so ingrained in my mind that I don&#039;t even consciously think about them when I read a contract. They just go &quot;ping&quot; when I hit them. To most lawyers, how you people make all the words come out and tell stories about dragons and robots and cats that solve murders and whatnot is an impenetrable mystery. How to make the words in a license come out so the story ends up with &quot;And then she got a nice royalty check on the licensed products just like she was supposed to&quot; is our mystery. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I may insert a not-so-subtle plug, an <i>experienced</i> licensing attorney, when offered particularized incentives for particular products, will immediately ask, &#8220;How do I know that those products will be offered for sale in commercial quantities as opposed to other products which have differing royalty terms?&#8221; I can think of three different ways I would have addressed said deal-sweetener, and that&#8217;s just off the top of my head. I wouldn&#8217;t even necessarily attribute the prospective failure to promote/market/sell the royalty-enhanced products to bad faith. I don&#8217;t care <i>why</i> somebody does something when I write a contract, only whether they do it or not, and what happens if they do or don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>(As an aside, it&#8217;s very common for licensees to play the &#8220;We&#8217;re honest professionals, you can trust us to read this reasonably&#8221; card when licenses are negotiated. My response to this is a friendly laugh and the statement, &#8220;Of course I trust <i>you</i>, and I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d pay on this just like you say. But, God Forbid, what if you get hit by a bus tomorrow and somebody else has to manage the license?&#8221;)</p>
<p>This point shouldn&#8217;t be taken in isolation or wrangled about in depth: it&#8217;s just a good illustration in general of the kind of thing you need professionals to know about so you don&#8217;t <i>have</i> to. I could list out a few dozen similar principles that are so ingrained in my mind that I don&#8217;t even consciously think about them when I read a contract. They just go &#8220;ping&#8221; when I hit them. To most lawyers, how you people make all the words come out and tell stories about dragons and robots and cats that solve murders and whatnot is an impenetrable mystery. How to make the words in a license come out so the story ends up with &#8220;And then she got a nice royalty check on the licensed products just like she was supposed to&#8221; is our mystery. <img src='http://kriswrites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Marc Whipple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Whipple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are most welcome.

As far as fear of lawyers, well, I can understand that. Whenever &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; get a letter on legal letterhead, my heart sinks, and I are one. 

But we have an old saying in my profession: &quot;Pay me a little now, or pay me a lot later.&quot; Or, in this particular case, &quot;Pay me a little now, or watch somebody take a lot from you later.&quot; It&#039;s up to you. 

And it should also be noted that most IP lawyers, like most other kinds of lawyers (a major exception being criminal defense lawyers for obvious reasons) will offer a free consultation and give you a (highly-qualified) estimate of what something will cost you. If you can&#039;t afford it, say so. We may try to talk you into it, but we won&#039;t mock you for not having the money. Most of us, being friendly sorts, will often offer observations (not advice) on what has worked in similar situations in the past during such consultations. 

We do not bite, we will not make fun of your outfit, and the only criticism of your writing abilities we will offer is if you spell our names wrong on the check. (To a lawyer, the zenith of literature is the immortal short story form which begins, &quot;Pay to the Order Of:&quot;) There is, honest and for true, no downside to consulting one of us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are most welcome.</p>
<p>As far as fear of lawyers, well, I can understand that. Whenever <i>I</i> get a letter on legal letterhead, my heart sinks, and I are one. </p>
<p>But we have an old saying in my profession: &#8220;Pay me a little now, or pay me a lot later.&#8221; Or, in this particular case, &#8220;Pay me a little now, or watch somebody take a lot from you later.&#8221; It&#8217;s up to you. </p>
<p>And it should also be noted that most IP lawyers, like most other kinds of lawyers (a major exception being criminal defense lawyers for obvious reasons) will offer a free consultation and give you a (highly-qualified) estimate of what something will cost you. If you can&#8217;t afford it, say so. We may try to talk you into it, but we won&#8217;t mock you for not having the money. Most of us, being friendly sorts, will often offer observations (not advice) on what has worked in similar situations in the past during such consultations. </p>
<p>We do not bite, we will not make fun of your outfit, and the only criticism of your writing abilities we will offer is if you spell our names wrong on the check. (To a lawyer, the zenith of literature is the immortal short story form which begins, &#8220;Pay to the Order Of:&#8221;) There is, honest and for true, no downside to consulting one of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine Kathryn Rusch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine Kathryn Rusch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please do, Marsha. The more this information gets out, the better off we&#039;ll all be. Thanks for thinking of that!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please do, Marsha. The more this information gets out, the better off we&#8217;ll all be. Thanks for thinking of that!</p>
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		<title>By: Willi Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willi Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great information.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great information.</p>
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		<title>By: Marsha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marsha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love this article. I started out my professional life as a legal secretary and I have been preaching this same thing for years. I am teaching a class on basic novel structure for absolute beginners and would like to use this article as part of that class.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this article. I started out my professional life as a legal secretary and I have been preaching this same thing for years. I am teaching a class on basic novel structure for absolute beginners and would like to use this article as part of that class.</p>
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		<title>By: RD Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IMO, the general problem falls into the category of most writers hate dealing with business.  Most of us would rather focus on writing and let someone else handle all that &quot;boring stuff.&quot;  Many writers sign these things thinking they can now focus on the reason they went into writing, with one less thing to worry about before the big bucks come rolling in.

As you point out, however, that era is gone.  A person can have the best written novel in the world, but they&#039;ll never make it today if they don&#039;t get the business side of the equation.  The saying of &quot;writing trumps everything&quot; is true...for those looking to make a quick buck off of you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, the general problem falls into the category of most writers hate dealing with business.  Most of us would rather focus on writing and let someone else handle all that &#8220;boring stuff.&#8221;  Many writers sign these things thinking they can now focus on the reason they went into writing, with one less thing to worry about before the big bucks come rolling in.</p>
<p>As you point out, however, that era is gone.  A person can have the best written novel in the world, but they&#8217;ll never make it today if they don&#8217;t get the business side of the equation.  The saying of &#8220;writing trumps everything&#8221; is true&#8230;for those looking to make a quick buck off of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Schneyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Schneyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 15:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thing that drives me crazy, as one who does like to negotiate deals, is that most of these &quot;terms of use&quot; online agreements are take-it-or-leave-it, essentially non-negotiable deals.  All you can really do is walk away from them.

I read lots of provisions in the Amazon terms for self-publication that really turned me off, but I e-signed the damned thing anyway, because Amazon is such an enormously popular distribution outlet.

At least with a paper contract (or an online agreement with a small firm) you can dicker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that drives me crazy, as one who does like to negotiate deals, is that most of these &#8220;terms of use&#8221; online agreements are take-it-or-leave-it, essentially non-negotiable deals.  All you can really do is walk away from them.</p>
<p>I read lots of provisions in the Amazon terms for self-publication that really turned me off, but I e-signed the damned thing anyway, because Amazon is such an enormously popular distribution outlet.</p>
<p>At least with a paper contract (or an online agreement with a small firm) you can dicker.</p>
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		<title>By: D.L. Shutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.L. Shutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 14:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another brilliant post Kris, thanks for the insight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another brilliant post Kris, thanks for the insight.</p>
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