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	<title>Comments on: The Business Rusch: Getting Rid of the Middle Man</title>
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		<title>By: Deb Kinnard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb Kinnard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stephen, if the experience of members of the US&#039;s largest Christian writers&#039; group is any indication, WestBow will offer you only what their agreement says. It is very unlikely they will take your project to Nelson, who are extremely picky about what they will publish under that name. Westbow&#039;s is a very expensive package for work that you can get via CreateSpace or Smashwords for a much more acceptable amount of money.

My take and what I&#039;ve heard through the grapevine. Publishers use phrases such as &quot;you may be picked up by our royalty paying house!&quot; as worms on the hook. Do not bite. It doesn&#039;t happen often.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, if the experience of members of the US&#8217;s largest Christian writers&#8217; group is any indication, WestBow will offer you only what their agreement says. It is very unlikely they will take your project to Nelson, who are extremely picky about what they will publish under that name. Westbow&#8217;s is a very expensive package for work that you can get via CreateSpace or Smashwords for a much more acceptable amount of money.</p>
<p>My take and what I&#8217;ve heard through the grapevine. Publishers use phrases such as &#8220;you may be picked up by our royalty paying house!&#8221; as worms on the hook. Do not bite. It doesn&#8217;t happen often.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine Kathryn Rusch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine Kathryn Rusch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Allan Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Allan Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is way too valuable to not pass on to others.  I will do my best to get the word out.  Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is way too valuable to not pass on to others.  I will do my best to get the word out.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine Kathryn Rusch</title>
		<link>http://kriswrites.com/2012/11/28/the-business-rusch-getting-rid-of-the-middle-man/comment-page-1/#comment-43722</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristine Kathryn Rusch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elizabeth, no one is commenting because this is becoming common. It&#039;s all in the wording of the non-compete clause and in the options. Publishers could tie up the rights for years without paying a dime.

And as for it being legal, here&#039;s the thing: In contract law, if you sign the document that does these things, it&#039;s legal. The only way to break a contract is to go to court, and then only if one party does something truly illegal (asking for the &lt;em&gt;real&lt;/em&gt; firstborn child) or if a judge deems that a party has overreached. One judge might think so, but another might not, so it&#039;s better to avoid signing bad clauses in the first place.

Oh, and look at my posts from the summer called &quot;Dealbreakers.&quot; That explains some of this as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth, no one is commenting because this is becoming common. It&#8217;s all in the wording of the non-compete clause and in the options. Publishers could tie up the rights for years without paying a dime.</p>
<p>And as for it being legal, here&#8217;s the thing: In contract law, if you sign the document that does these things, it&#8217;s legal. The only way to break a contract is to go to court, and then only if one party does something truly illegal (asking for the <em>real</em> firstborn child) or if a judge deems that a party has overreached. One judge might think so, but another might not, so it&#8217;s better to avoid signing bad clauses in the first place.</p>
<p>Oh, and look at my posts from the summer called &#8220;Dealbreakers.&#8221; That explains some of this as well.</p>
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		<title>By: James Gillaspy</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Gillaspy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read and passed on to my writers’ group your blog entry “The Business Rusch: The End of the Unprofessional Writer.”  It made a lot of sense, but I don’t think everyone, even those who should, truly get it.   I read a response from Patricia Rice touting the Book View Café as a group that understands the problem.  Unfortunately, I found:  “Membership in Book View Café is limited to authors who have been published by traditional, advance-and-royalty paying print publishers.”  The irony.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read and passed on to my writers’ group your blog entry “The Business Rusch: The End of the Unprofessional Writer.”  It made a lot of sense, but I don’t think everyone, even those who should, truly get it.   I read a response from Patricia Rice touting the Book View Café as a group that understands the problem.  Unfortunately, I found:  “Membership in Book View Café is limited to authors who have been published by traditional, advance-and-royalty paying print publishers.”  The irony.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://kriswrites.com/2012/11/28/the-business-rusch-getting-rid-of-the-middle-man/comment-page-1/#comment-43672</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 11:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nobody has commented on Kristine&#039;s description of a publishing house laying claim to a writer&#039;s future production. All of it, not just one option for one book. How can that be legal? And what does the wording look like? this is truly beyond the pale even for traditional publishing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody has commented on Kristine&#8217;s description of a publishing house laying claim to a writer&#8217;s future production. All of it, not just one option for one book. How can that be legal? And what does the wording look like? this is truly beyond the pale even for traditional publishing.</p>
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		<title>By: David Alastair Hayden</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Alastair Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 20:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: Contract. Names or it didn&#039;t happen ...

Kidding, of course. 

I know why names aren&#039;t given, but I suspect if the industry suffers even a partial collapse with the midlist fleeing in mass names and accusations and reveals are going to start flying out onto the Internet. Could get ugly but also illuminating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Contract. Names or it didn&#8217;t happen &#8230;</p>
<p>Kidding, of course. </p>
<p>I know why names aren&#8217;t given, but I suspect if the industry suffers even a partial collapse with the midlist fleeing in mass names and accusations and reveals are going to start flying out onto the Internet. Could get ugly but also illuminating.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine Kathryn Rusch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine Kathryn Rusch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 20:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Beth. :-) Exactly. Dean was a bear about this on our Kickstarter. He wanted to make sure that the project benefitted from the money, and he did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Beth. <img src='http://kriswrites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Exactly. Dean was a bear about this on our Kickstarter. He wanted to make sure that the project benefitted from the money, and he did.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 02:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indiegogo, perhaps, for outside the US?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indiegogo, perhaps, for outside the US?</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 02:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;Make sure your rewards don’t eat up the funds you’re asking for.&lt;/I&gt;

Underline this and circle it in red. Remember that Kickstarter and the IRS will claim some amount of what you get. Remember to factor in costs. Remember that these costs need to SCALE. E.g., Steve Jackson Games Kickstartered their classic OGRE wargame -- and my &lt;I&gt;gods&lt;/I&gt; did it overfund! (Comma deliberately left out for effect.) All the stretch goals are making the game that much cooler, but they&#039;ve also &lt;I&gt;slowed down production&lt;/I&gt; of it.

In less &quot;sweet stars and little fishies!&quot; territory, remember that if you&#039;re going to mail stuff to your supporters, you have to factor in postage, postage overseas, and the sheer effort of lugging all that stuff to the post office!

If you think you can get a free copy of your product, double-check that assumption -- you might wind up having to pay for your own copies, and a higher price than you expected. You don&#039;t want to wind up in the hole after you reward your supporters!

...basically, underline, circle, and highlight that one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Make sure your rewards don’t eat up the funds you’re asking for.</i></p>
<p>Underline this and circle it in red. Remember that Kickstarter and the IRS will claim some amount of what you get. Remember to factor in costs. Remember that these costs need to SCALE. E.g., Steve Jackson Games Kickstartered their classic OGRE wargame &#8212; and my <i>gods</i> did it overfund! (Comma deliberately left out for effect.) All the stretch goals are making the game that much cooler, but they&#8217;ve also <i>slowed down production</i> of it.</p>
<p>In less &#8220;sweet stars and little fishies!&#8221; territory, remember that if you&#8217;re going to mail stuff to your supporters, you have to factor in postage, postage overseas, and the sheer effort of lugging all that stuff to the post office!</p>
<p>If you think you can get a free copy of your product, double-check that assumption &#8212; you might wind up having to pay for your own copies, and a higher price than you expected. You don&#8217;t want to wind up in the hole after you reward your supporters!</p>
<p>&#8230;basically, underline, circle, and highlight that one.</p>
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